All About BTC, LTC, ETH mining as well as other alternative crypto currencies
Low crypto currency exchange rates, difficulty for Bitcoin and Litecoin going down, more Scrypt ASICs getting cancelled… in a situation like this how can you actually make profit mining, especially if using a cloud mining service? Well, the good news is that most of the cloud mining services are still up and running with ROI times just getting even longer than before, so it is hard to talk about actually getting a profit at the moment. At the same time however some services that promised long term contracts with maintenance fees included in the price are struggling to survive – bad planning expecting the price of BTC to skyrocket short term or well planned long-terms scams, it is hard to tell. The fact is that at the moment it may not be the wisest idea to invest in cloud mining hashrate, especially if you are not going to be paying for the hashrate with cash, but with coins that you have already mined or purchased at higher price.
– Genesis Mining remains one of the preferred cloud mining services thanks to being more transparent and open on their hardware partners and mining farms and who is actually behind the service, and also by offering some innovative and interesting features to miners. Their prices may not be the best out there, but at least they are here to stay long term.
– Bitcoin Cloud Services is probably the closest competitor with very similar terms to PBMining and prices for the hashrate. There were some concerns about the service when it launched, but it is still here a few months later, paying daily and offering attractive terms. Though since the business model could also be the same as PBMining if you have concerns you might want to go for other alternatives as well.
– Scrypt.cc is one of the first Scrypt cloud mining services from back when Litecoin was still profitable to mine with GPUs. We’ve had some issues with the service when we started to use it, then later on they were apparently resolved, but their services are not among the most attractive as they still rely mostly on their GPUs farms.
– PBmining has been having some trouble for the last few weeks with claiming to be a result of blackmail and operators personal data about the service operators leaking. As a result the service is apparently a “failing business” in their own words and “recovery is trying to be made”, no more hashrate is being sold and weekly payments are at just about 5% or less of what they should normally be. If you were among the early users fo the service you might have made some profit, but for people that joined PBmining in the last weeks it could be a serious loss. It is not clear if all was due to bad business planning or if it was a scam, note that the website is still online and there are still some payments being made, but that could also change at any time.
– GAW Miners is a company that started selling ASIC miners, then moved into cloud mining and are now moving to the next step – introducing their own crypto coin and building an whole ecosystem around it. They are essentially moving away from cloud mining services and moving to another business that they see as a better and more profitable alternative, we are yet to see how things will develop on the long term.
– Hashie is a relatively new service, but since they have partnered with the AMHash mining farm and started reselling their hashrate they have become a good place to get hashrate from. They were confirmed as an official partner by AMHash, a large mining farm operated by ASIC manufacturers, so their trust level has gone up and the price they have for AMHash hashrate is currently very good compared to other similar services.
– Hashnest is service for buying cloud mining and renting actual hardware miners operated by Bitmain, another ASIC manufacturer. The service had some issues in the past, but it stil running and trying to improve. They have announced a market where users can trade hashrate and get a better price per GHS, but even though you might be able to get a good price for the hashrate their maintenance fees have been quite high.
– ZeusHash has transformed from an ASIC manufacturer to cloud mining service provider, but unfortunately since they are not making their own hardware anymore and they do rely on other partners for the mining hardware their terms are far from the best. What they do try to do is to attract users with various incentives, some of which may work well, others not, but in the end people want to make money from their investment in cloud mining and this service may not be the best place for that at the moment.
– Chabat Mining is another new service that has been grown quite a bit lately by offering very attractive Scrypt cloud mining hashrate prices, but with the not so favorable situation for LTC at the moment it is questionable how wise it is to invest in Scrypt cloud mining at the moment. We’ve been having some strange issues with the service’s website, like often not being able to actually see our current mining status, but no issues with payments so far.
– CEX was one of the first large could mining farms, however with their maintenance fees going higher and higher the profitability of the service has gone down significantly. So at the moment you can say that it is more like a large crypto currency exchange with some cloud mining options available to make something extra when trading with hashrate and not only crypto coins.
It is time to again do a quick check on what the latest prices for cloud mining hashrate are at the various Bitcoin and Litecoin cloud mining services that we are using and testing to get an overview on where the deals are the best. Do note that we are not listing all services as some are really pointless to list due to the way too high prices for hashrate (Cloud Hashing) or ones that actually do not want to sell you hashrate (KNC Cloud), even if their prices may seem attractive. We are listing services that have been available for a while already, so the chances that any of these may turn out to be a scam are lower, but be aware that there is always a risk for this. So our advice when investing in a cloud mining service is to not do it in just one, but instead spread to multiple services and never to spend more than you can afford to loose.
Bitcoin cloud mining services:
– Bitcoin Cloud Services – 0.0014 BTC per GHS, 5 years, no pool fee, no maintenance fee, automatic daily payouts
– Genesis Mining – 0.0021 BTC per GHS (0.001995 BTC – extra 5% off with promo code CryptoMiningBlog5), unlimited contract, $0.002 USD per 1 GHS daily maintenance fee, automatic daily payout
– PBMining – 0.0014 BTC per GHS, 5 years, no pool fee, no maintenance fee, automatic weekly payout
– Hashie – 0.0012 BTC per GHS, unlimited contract, $0.00163 USD per 1 GHS daily fee, manual payout, has an exchange to trade hashrate
– Hashnest – 0.001125 BTC per GHS, unlimited contract, $0.0022896 USD per GHS per day, manual payout
– GAW Miners – 0.001847 BTC per GHS, unlimited contract, $0.002 USD per 1 GHS daily maintenance fee, option to sell hashrate, manual payouts
– ZeusHash – 0.002357 BTC per GHS, unlimited contract, $0.0023 USD per 1 GHS daily fee, manual payout
– CEX.io – 0.001898 BTC per GHS, unlimited contract, $0.0035 USD per 1 GHS daily fee, manual payout, has an exchange to trade hashrate
Litecoin cloud mining services:
– Genesis Mining – 0.04771 BTC per MHS (0.045325 BTC – extra 5% off with promo code CryptoMiningBlog5), unlimited contract, $0.05 USD per MHS daily fee, can choose payment in altcoins, automatic daily payout
– ZeusHash – 0.04239 BTC per MHS, unlimited contract, $0.058 USD per 1 MHS daily fee, manual payout
– Scrypt.cc – 0.04936 BTC per MHS, unlimited contract, no extra fees, has an exchange to trade hashrate
– Chabat Mining – 0.02278 BTC per MHS, 1 year contract, no extra fees
– GAW Miners – 0.01847 BTC per MHS, unlimited contract, $0.08 USD per MHS daily fee, option to sell hashrate, manual payouts
It seems that Hashnest has significantly lowered their maintenance fee, but that is not helping them much in selling the rest of their Bitcoin cloud hashrate with the last 0.5 PHS seeming hard to sell after the service had some trouble with the reporting and/or functionality (still has?) of the mining hashrate provided by their partner UMISOO. The maintenance fee of the cheapest GAW Miners Hashlet (the MultiHashlet) is very close to what is the expected daily mined coins when converted to USD at the moment. Some of the services probably need to revise their hshrate prices with the increase of network difficulty in mind as it is harder to lower the maintenance fees without the upgrade to newer and better hardware.
Recently we’ve been contacted by a new cloud mining service called Chabat Mining, and we’ve already seen it before that, but wanted to give it some more time before actually checking it out. In our experience so far with some new cloud mining services that have later on turned out to be scams, most of them are usually gone in a month, so when we see a new one appear we are approaching it more careful. This is especially true when the service operators want to remain pretty much anonymous and do not provide a lot of information on their website about their mining operation, so doing a bit of research is a good idea. The website has been registered on August 20th and the first news on the website appear to be published on 26th, Archive.org has a snapshot of the website from September 22nd. We’ve actually found out about this website about a month ago, so we’ve decided to give it a go and try out the service since it is apparently still here.
Being contacted by the operators of the service gave us the opportunity to ask a bit more information about the service and their mining operation. It seems the people behind Chabat Mining are from France, however their mining operation is based in Bangalore, India in order to take advantage of cheaper workforce and electricity there, or so we were told. We were sent the photo above as a proof of their mining operation, a not very clear image of a data center and the Litecoin mining equipment the service says they use is custom built based on 28nm ASIC chips. According to the statistics available on the main page of the service they operate a 14 GHS Litecoin mining farm out of which a little over 1000 MHS (1 GHS) are currently available for customers.
What makes this service seem very attractive is the price they currently offer for their mining contracts, currently 10 MHS Litecoin Scrypt mining power will cost you $88 USD (were $85 earleir today when we have purchased a contract). The mining contract duration is 1 year with no maintenance fees, though apparently after that the contract continues with some fees – $0.08 USD per MHS for another year or three (not made very clear on the website). There is also a future contract available for pre-order where 10 MHS will cost you $69 USD, but the mining for that one will start at the end of the year, so not that much attractive. The service uses CoinPayments as a payment processor for paying with either BTC or LTC for the hashrate, but there is also an option to pay with PayPal, not something we often see with cloud mining services nowadays. The payments are automated and ran every 6 hours if you have mined an amount larger than 0.1 LTC (Payments are only in LTC), otherwise the mined Litecoins will be sent once you have accumulated more than 0.1 on the next payment schedule. Our purchase of 10 MHS hashrate (order number a little over 100) that we use for testing the service went smooth and fast and pretty much within 30-40 minutes we got the hashrate available in our account and mining coins, though it could take some more time.
The user account control panel and the mining information available is not the best we’ve seen, but it provides you with the most important information to help you keep track of your mining and calculate profitability and expected ROI time. If the current conditions for Litecoin remain the same you might be able to ROI in about 4 months with the current low prices and difficulty that has been showing pretty moderate increase for quite some time already. This is just a rough estimate however as it is really hard to predict what can and will happen in the next 4 months with Litecoin, but considering that some alternative services offer significantly higher prices for hashrate this deal might not be bad at all. Of course there is always some risk and the better the deal, the higher the risk usually is, so as usual we advice caution, start small and do not spend more than you can afford to loose. We’ve purchased 10 MHS hashrate and will continue to test the service and report our experience over time, so you can keep an eye out on how things develop further. Meanwhile, if you are interested in trying out the service you can use the link below to register, as following it you will get a 3% promo code for your first order, so even better price per MHS. Do note that once you register and add a contract in your Cart you will see the 3% discount code shown in the Cart, but you need to copy and paste it in the Coupon Code field and click on the Apply Coupon button in order for the code to be activated for your purchase… it will not be activated by default, just displayed for you to use it!