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The sale of the updated Pro version of the AntMiner E9 ETC/ETC miner is apparently going to start in a few days according to a tweet from Bitmain. The new Bitmain AntMiner E9 Pro ETC miner is supposed to deliver 3680 MH/s with 2200 Watts of power usage or 0.6J per MH/s efficiency with a price of $1299 USD per unit (without shipping and taxes) with the sales starting on February 3rd (up to 50 miners per order maximum). The new ETChash miner is not yet listed on the official website, but should soon appear with sales about to start right very soon, it certainly is a nice improvement in terms of hashrate and efficiency compared to the older non-pro E9 model offering 2400 MH/s at 1920 Watts of power usage (0.8 J/M). No word on the amount of available memory on the new E9 Pro units, but it is most likely 6GB like on the older E9 models, so that should cover ETC DAG sizes for quite some time.

With the AntMiner E9 Pro Bitmain is reaching the same level of efficiency as the latest generation of compact iPollo ETH/ETC miners, though iPollo is yet to update their larger miners with the latest hardware and to offer such low prices as Bitmain. Jasminer is still outperforming both iPollo and Bitmain in terms of power efficiency with their ETH/ETC miners, however they do come at a higher price and are yet to support dual-mining. Bitmain has not offered dual-mining for ETH/ETC and ZIL on their previous E9 devices and we are most likely not going to see ZIL dual-mining support on the new models as well, or at least no work yet about it. So, with the current low mining profitability of ETC and improvement in terms of hashrate and power efficiency is nice, but an addition of extra 30 or more percent mining profit from dual-mining with ZIL is something that everyone would love to have. For now, only iPollo does provide support for dual-mining with ZIL on their latest firmware, so it will be nice to also see them updating their larger miners with the latest hardware and with a more affordable price.

A few days ago, Jasminer has teased with an upcoming new Ethash/ETChash miner called X16 and now there is more information regarding the specifications and pricing of the new device available. Jasminer and their X4 chips are currently one the most efficient solution for mining ETH-based DAG coins and their upcoming X16 chips should be capable of delivering even better performance. The newly released information form Jasminer states that their new Jasminer X16-Q (an upgraded version of their X4-Q quiet miner) is supposed to be capable of 1845 MH/s hashrate for Ethash/ETChash with 630 Watts of power usage or 2.93 Megahash per Watt (0.34 J/MH efficiency). As comparison the X4-Q does offer 2.17 Megahash per Watt power efficiency (1040 MH/s at 480 Watts or 0.46 J/MH efficiency), so a nice improvement in power efficiency and is is not only higher hashrate with lower power usage apparently. The new X16 miners should also come with 8GB of memory available for larger DAG coins as compared to the just 5GB available with the current generation of X4 devices.

The price cited on the official Jasminer website for their upcoming JASMINER X16-Q High Throughput 3U Quiet Server is $2799 USD, though there is no stock and you cannot apparently pre-order the device… it has not been released for sale yet. The device is rated at just 40 dB as noise level thus it continues the legacy of the X4-Q for a quiet miner that can be used at home as a space heater, however the release timeframe for the new model does not make it very attractive for such use as it will apparently miss the cold winter days. According to Jingle Mining, an official Jasminer reseller, the expected delivery date for the new X16-Q devices is somewhere in between May 1st and May 31st next year, so quite a bit of time before these make it on the market apparently.

There is currently no word regarding support for Nicehash and Dual-Mining Ethash/ETChash coins with Zilliqa (ZIL) however for the new X16 products as currently one of the main drawbacks of the Jasminer X4 devices in realizing their maximum potential and profitability is the lack of support for these. It will be nice to see a solution for Nicehash and Dual-Mining with ZIL as they can improve profitability of the existing and upcoming devices significantly at the moment and make them more interesting for miners in the current not so favourable mining conditions where even being able to cover for electricity costs is a challenge. Guess we’ll have to wait a bit more and see if these will be addressed or not, and by the time the new miner is released on the market it is also possible that even without these available the profitability might make them not much of a problem like they are currently.

To get more details about the Jasminer X16-Q on the official website…

A few days ago, we have shared our First Impressions from the iPollo V1 Mini Ethash/ETChash ASIC Miner and now it is time to dig a little bit deeper into this compact and pretty powerful home-oriented miner. One of the first things that came to mind when we have opened this 300 MH/s Ethash/ETChash ASIC miner was how to try and make it silent while working. Nano Labs have made very good job in making this a very compact and sturdy device that is well built and works under even more adverse conditions. However due to the small size they made a lot of custom things inside the miner which makes it a bit of a problem to work around them trying to modify the device like when trying to make it silent yet cool.

We’ve already discussed the server style heatsink that is used that unfortunately is not any standard size for mounting on the ASIC chip and for cooling fans. The small and powerful 60mm cooling fans found inside are managing to keep the device cool, but making it a bit noisy even when they are running at sub 5000 RPM (they can go up to 7000 if needed). And if you want to use this at home in your living room or any other room where people will be present the noise level with the fans running at automatic mode keeping the miner at around 50 degrees Celsius will be noisy. So what can be done?

Two 60mm fans, how about replacing them with a single 120mm fan and will that keep things cool enough. Well, you can do it with a single 120mm fan, but you will have similar noisy miner just like with the default 60mm fans. The reason for that is that fins of the heatsink are only about 60mm tall, so essentially half of the 120mm fan will not be utilized thus half the efficiency. If you however do two 120mm silent fans such as Arctic Cooling F120 or P120 in a push-pull configuration on both sides of the heatsink you will manage to get a pretty silent operation and enough airflow to keep the miner cool at around the 50 degrees Celsius level. Unfortunately, the fan mounting is not very easy and you are still going to be wasting half of the fan’s airflow due to the low heatsink used by the miner. And another possible problem with this setup is when the ambient temperature rises above 25-30 degrees Celsius, it would be a problem for already maxed out F12/P12 fans to keep the ASIC operating at around 50 degrees C.

What comes to mind here is to use a larger 140mm fan instead with higher airflow and stack two of the iPollo miners on top of each other so that you will get the 140mm fan cover both miners and provide enough airflow. This should work pretty well in theory, though we are currently unable to test it as we only have one iPollo miner available. But there is another catch, the inside metal frame that holds the boards of the miner is just a bit shy of being able to properly fit a 140mm fan inside, so you need to remove the metal frame and that results in exposing a lot of the PCB. You would need to think of a custom case in order to secure things and it better be metal in order to prevent any possible interferences for the WiFi signal (if you are using the WiFi module). This could however work out very nicely in making a single 600 MH/s device cooled by a single or maybe dual Arctic Cooling P140 or Noctua NF-A14 fans (push-pull dual fan setup should work pretty well). We need to secure another iPollo miner to continue working on that idea, but if you have more than one such device already and are feeling up to the task you might work on it as well and share your results.

When we initially shared out first impressions from the iPollo V1 Mini Ethash/ETChash it did not work with Nicehash, but at pretty much the same time the platform has just announced that iPollo will actually work on their platform. All you had to do is add “--nicehash” (without the quotes) in the More Options field in the Miner Configuration page in the web interface. And do not forget to remove the option from there if you are switching to another mining pool as will not connect to other pools if you forget the option there. You can also try additional commands here that will be passed directly to the back-end miner software (more details on that below), however you cannot monitor the output from the mining software directly through the web-based interface of iPollo.

Another useful thing here is that the particular gold iPollo V1 Mini ASIC miner is equipped with 6GB of memory (the Classic series of V1 miners from iPollo are with just 4GB!), so you will be able to mine ETH with it. Furthermore, iPollo miners do support dual mining ETH/ETC and ZIL, so some extra profit if you are mining a compatible Ethash or ETChash coin along with Zilliqa. Check out this post on Dual Mining ETC, ETHW or ETHF plus ZIL For Better Profit if you have missed it, the 6GB iPollo miners are able to mine the ETH forks that split at the Merge when Ethereum switched from PoW to PoS as their DAGs are a bit over 5GB currently.

Further digging into the iPollo miner we connected to the device over SSH, it has full root access with root:root as username and password, so if you want to explore and play around with it you can get to it. We’ve quickly discovered that iPollo uses a modified version of cgminer so good news for anyone that is familiar with this old school miner and its wide array of options that can be used, but might not be implemented in the web interface of the device. There are some interesting extra commands available for the miner’s cgminer (note the nicehash option and the poolhub one), though they are not documented and the option for setting the voltage does not seem to work, but you might want to try to explore more, so here they are:

--ipollo-hmode iPollo hash mode(0:1.1v, 1:1.2v)
--xignore xcmd ignore the local target check
--xhrate xcmd hashrate for suggest difficulty from pool
--xfacworker xcmd worker name for fac test
--xndiff xcmd native difficulty for the chips
--xcmpll xcmd cmp setting
--xcmp4w xcmd cmp4w setting
--xcv xcmd cv setting
--xkey xcmd key setting
--xse xcmd se setting
--nicehash xcmd support nicehash stratum
--poolhub xcmd support poolhub stratum
--xigncc xcmd ignore chips with capacity

Here is the default command line that is used for dual-mining ETC + ZIL using the cgminer through SSH if you want to experiment and most of all to be able to see the full miner output… something that is kind of lacking in the web-based interface even though you have three different logs available for viewing:

cgminer --lowmem -a etc --ipollo-fans 1-100-50-100 --xndiff 28 --ipollo-hmode 1 -o us-west.ezil.me:4444 -u ETC_WALLET.ZIL_WALLET.WORKER_ID -p x --api-allow W:127.0.0.1/8,W:10.0.0.0/8,W:172.16.0.0/12,W:192.168.0.0/16 --api-listen

Just make sure that you have you ETC_WALLET, ZIL_WALLET and WORKER_ID set in the command line above in order for the miner to actually start mining to your address. Also, since cgminer will probably already be running once you connect to the miner over SSH, just make sure to first stop it with “killall -9 cgminer” (without the quotes). There is a process monitor that will fire up cgminer if you don’t start it up for a while after you kill the process. Happy digging and don’t forget to share any interesting findings with the rest of us…


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