Mining Ethereum with RTX 3070 Laptop GPU on a Gaming Notebook

14 Feb
2021

The latest craze in crypto mining is apparently going for gaming laptops that can handle solitaire cash legit games that are suitable for mining Ethereum (ETH), so time to play around with one such bad boy and see if it is worth doing it. No wonder people are looking for alternatives with the lack of mining GPUS on the market and the very high prices whenever available. So, we’ll be looking a MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG gaming laptop equipped with Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU in order to see what you can really expect in term of mining performance, usability and reliability. The MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG 15.6-inch gaming notebook is equipped with a 10th generation Intel Core i7 CPU and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 3070 Laptop GPU and whole lot of other goodies that frankly we don’t care much about with our focus being mining Ethereum (ETH). We are mostly interested in the GPU and the cooling solution used by MSI in this gaming laptop, as things such as 300Hz LCD refresh rate, RGB gaming keyboard, Killer LAN, Audio by Dynaudio and so on won’t matter much for crypto mining anyway.

MSI GS66 Stealth Laptop Key Specs:
– 15.6″ Full HD (1920×1080), 300Hz, IPS-level gaming display
– NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU 8GB GDDR6 (95W TGP)
– Intel Core i7-10870H (8C-16T, 2.20-5.00 GHz, 16 MB cache, 45W TDP)
– 99.9 Whr High Battery Capacity for longer use
– New Cooler Boost Trinity+ with 0.1mm thin blades Cooling Tech
– Dragon Center with exclusive gaming mode and advanced controls
– Per-Key RGB Backlight gaming keyboard by SteelSeries
– Sound by Dynaudio and Duo wave speaker
– Killer Network Gigabit LAN, 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth v5.2
– Compact dimensions of 358.3x248x18.3-19.8 mm and just 2.1 kg weight
– 230W Slim compact power adapter

For more details about the MSI GS66 Stealth Gaming Laptop…

Nvidia’s latest GeForce RTX 30 series of GPUs have quickly become the preferred choice for not only gamers, but also for crypto miners due to their high hashrate especially for mining Ethereum (ETH). The combination between a powerful graphics processor, fast GDDR6 or GDDR6X memory and a wide memory bus made them great for mining cryptocurrencies. This is also especially true when you tweak them a bit to run optimized for efficiency (lower power usage and higher mining hashrate). This is one of the main reasons that the desktop variants of the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti, GeForce RTX 3070, GeForce RTX 3080 and even GeForce RTX 3090 video cards are hard to find.

With the release of the Nvidia GeForce RTX 30 series Laptop GPUs, the green company has once more hit the jackpot with a great product not only for gamers, but for crypto miners as well (when considering just the performance). The mobile Nvidia RTX 30 series of GPUs include the GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU as the top high-end model, the GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU as the mid-range and the GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU as the lower-end gaming grade solution. The mobile GPUs however are not as powerful as their desktop counterparts as integrating them in a compact laptop chassis and properly cooling them is hard to do if you have 200W-300W or even higher power usage. That is why these Laptop GPUs are a bit stripped down – a bit less CUDA cores and lower operating frequencies and voltages, resulting in significantly lower TDP, while still able to provide you with great performance.

Do note that there is no RTX 3060 Ti mobile version of the RTX 3060 Ti desktop GPU, so while an Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti can still do 50-60 MH/s, its mobile counterpart will not be as good. The RTX 3060 Laptop GPU is not based on the Ti, but on the normal RTX 3060 desktop. This means that the memory bus is 192-bit and not 256-bit and lower clock speeds, so even lower performance is expected compared to the RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. The same applies for the RTX 3080 Laptop GPU that also features GDDR6 instead of the GDDR6X video memory like the desktop version and has a 256-bit memory bus instead of the 320-bit for the desktop and with the lower clocks its performance for mining Ethereum will most likely not be that much better compared to the RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. With all that said, if you are going for a gaming laptop and plan on using it for crypto mining Ethereum (ETH) your best bet will be the mid-range GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU both in terms of price and in terms of performance!

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Desktop GPU:
– CUDA Cores: 5888
– Default GPU Clock: 1500 MHz
– Boost GPU Clock: 1725 MHz
– Memory Type: 8GB GDDR6
– Memory Clock: 1750 MHz (14 Gbps effective)
– Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
– TDP: 220W

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU:
– CUDA Cores: 5120
– Default GPU Clock: 780 MHz
– Boost GPU Clock: 1290 MHz
– Memory Type: 8GB GDDR6
– Memory Clock: 1500 MHz (12 Gbps effective)
– Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
– TDP: 95W

The above specifications are for a reference design RTX 3070 desktop GPU and for the RTX 3070 Laptop GPU used in the MSI GS66 Stealth gaming laptop that we are playing around with for ETH mining here. Have in mind that different manufacturers of laptops can have their own variation of the specifications such as frequencies and power usage, so performance results may vary a bit from a laptop to a laptop, even though they may have the same RTX 30 series GPU inside.

It is important not only to have good cooling solution such as the Cooler Boost Trinity+ from MSI, but also to have user control over the cooling fans and not to run them in automatic mode as far as crypto mining use is concerned. The MSI Cooler Boost Trinity+ tech is essentially consisting of three cooling fans with very thin blades and 7 heatpipes that are used to lead the heat away from the chassis of the laptop effectively and fast, so that the components inside can run cool… even when mining. Unfortunately, the MSI Afterburner software for overclocking and monitoring GPUs does not have a fan control support for this particular laptop, though you can still overclock the GPU and video memory.

The good news is that using the MSI Dragon Center software that comes with the laptop can provide you with the needed control over the cooling fans’ speed in the gaming laptop and what you would probably want to use for mining is the Cooler Boost mode. This mode just runs the fans at maximum speed all the time and is a bit noisy compared to the automatic fan control, but it is effectively keeping the operating temperatures low and this is what you need. Via the software you can also make a fan operation curve if you wish to, though it is recommended to run the fans at maximum and get the lowest possible operating temperature when crypto mining, especially when using a laptop.

The MSI GS66 Stealth gaming laptop with its Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU inside is capable of delivering around 45.8 MH/s hashrate mining Ethereum (ETH) with the default out of the box settings with about 81W of power usage for the GPU with PhoenixMiner. This is lower than the 50-51 MH/s hashrate you can expect to get from stock settings on a desktop RTX 3070 video card, but the power usage here is also much lower – more than two times for just about 10% lower hashrate. With the default settings that include automatic fan control the operating temperature of the GPU while mining is pretty high – it is kept at around 70 degrees Celsius. This is a bit high for 24/7 mining, so we would like to avoid having such high temperature. Even though the GPU will still function properly for a while the concern is more for the other components in the cramped-up space that is the chassis of the laptop.

What you can do to help lower the operating temperature more is to turn up the cooling fans to the maximum or at least optimize the default cooling operation from the MSI Dragon Center software that was already mentioned is bundled with your MSI laptop. Going for the Cooler Boost option in the fans control settings everything can get much better with the temperature dropping down about 10 degrees down to around 60 Celsius. This is much better for 24/7 mining operation though still slightly more than we would normally settle for operating temperature for a desktop GPU used for mining. Further lowering with 2-3 degrees Celsius is possible if you just rise the back of the laptop a bit from the desk surface as it allows for better airflow.

With RTX 3070 Laptop GPUs you cannot lower the power usage as it is already very optimized, you can get it a bit higher in order to increase the performance by overclocking the video card. As with desktop GeForce RTX 3070 GPUs what you need is to increase the video memory in order to get higher hashrate, there is not that much point in overclocking the GPU as your power limit is 95W and you cannot go past it. The GPU already runs at a lower operating frequency, though you still might be able to downclock it a bit more without losing any performance in terms of Ethereum mining hashrate.

The interesting thing is that even at -500 MHz the GPU retains its ETH mining performance for it to still push 50 MH/s hashrate, though you still need to push up the video memory with +650 MHz from MSI Afterburner for the extra megahashes. Unfortunately going higher and the GPU starting to freeze with black screen, so no way to get up to +1100 MHz like we normally go for with desktop RTX 30 series of GPUs. Remember that the stock memory frequency of the RTX 3070 Laptop GPU is also lower than the default for its desktop counterpart, and you also cannot clock it as much. So, the optimized settings give us a bit over 50 MH/s hashrate with about 95W of power usage which is close to the standard out of the box mining performance of the desktop RTX 3070 GPU, but still at over half the power usage here for the Laptop GPU.

This most important question is if it is worth getting a gaming laptop for crypto mining Ethereum (ETH). Most people will tell you – NO, but you can easily answer it yourself if you check a mining profitability calculator with the performance data you have available for the MSI GS66 Stealth gaming laptop and the RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Going for the Whattomine website with 50 MH/s Ethash hashrate and 140W of total power usage for the laptop results in about $5.5-$6.5 USD profit at the moment per Day or about $180 USD per Month. You can consider trying Dual-Mining Ethereum (ETH) and Zilliqa (ZIL) for increasing the profitability a bit more thanks to the extra ZIL coins you will be mining. As for the price of the MSI gaming laptop with RTX 3070 GPU, it is currently around $2400 USD, so a little over a year of non-stop mining for the laptop to pay itself back if the mining profitability remains the same as it currently is (not very likely).

The idea here is not to start building a mining farm out of gaming laptops, this is just not that wise no matter how you look at it. Better stick for building mining rigs with desktop GPUs for crypto mining. You can however take the opportunity and get to buy yourself an expensive gaming laptop that you may otherwise not be able to afford and let it pay for itself over time. This way you can use the laptop for gaming, work or whatever and when you are not using it to just leave it mining Ethereum. Just make sure you have it properly cooled and optimally working at all times, monitoring the operating temperature and never and really NEVER use the CPU as well for mining along with the GPU! Intel’s CPUs get really hot and will also heat up the cooler and other components leading to a much higher chance of issues with the laptop if it is running like that for 24/7, so avoid at all costs and stick to the GPU mining if you will.

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21 Responses to Mining Ethereum with RTX 3070 Laptop GPU on a Gaming Notebook

Jan

February 26th, 2021 at 02:41

I am just testing mining on Asus ROG G15 with 3070 and thanks to powerlimit of 115 W and RAM OC to 17 GHz it is hashing stable 65 MHs with Phoenixminer so probably fastest mining on laptop you can see :). I have few destop 3070 and geting maximum 61 MHs.

admin

February 26th, 2021 at 08:21

Jan, so it comes with memory at 1750 MHz and you managed to clock it to 2125 MHz running stable on the G15?

Jan

February 26th, 2021 at 15:39

Hi,
yes exactly, it is stable with memory +1500 MHz in Afterburener. GPU temperature is under 70 degrees with both fans od 55% (4400 RPM) so this should be fine as laptop is quite cold on surface on both sides. I would be interested in memory temperature, hope they could add it to HWinfo some time. Maybe that high memory OC is because of good memory cooling, as there separate heatpipe for memory chips and VRM which isnt usual at desktop GPUs.

admin

February 26th, 2021 at 17:35

That is quite interesting for a laptop design, haven’t seen a desktop RTX 3070 that is able to handle such video memory overclock… maybe Asus uses higher voltage for the VRAM as well.

Jan

February 26th, 2021 at 18:55

Probably they wont use higher voltage on laptop, probably just good silicon. Would be interesting too see other G15 or G17 laptops how is memory OC. But really cool that laptops are getting that close to desktop with performance for not so much higher price. I can play for example Battlefield V on extrenal 4K monitor without problems. Only missing some tweaking of CPU (Ryzen 5800H), you cant control anything in BIOS and Ryzen master is not allowed on laptops. Now CPU is using too much voltage, it could usse much less and achieve higher frequency and effectivity.
Here is 3D mark Time Spy score for comparsion: 10580, GPU: 10995, CPU: 8719. GPU memory +1500 Mhz, core 1680 Mhz without drops undervolted to 750 mV

Arnaud

March 1st, 2021 at 16:52

Hello, thank you, with your help, I got my Asus A17, Ryzen 7 5000, Running my Rtx 3070 at 50.886 M/H, but for the moment i didn’t find the way to increase the fan speed manually, with the Armoury Crate of Asus, i don’t have a manuel mode for the fan, and since the cpu is not running much the turbo mode is not kicking on, i got the Cpu at 66° and the Gpu at 69°,

Filc

March 1st, 2021 at 20:36

Hi Jan,

I have the same laptop arriving tomorrow, to check did you drop the core clock or just up the +1500mhz memory?

Emil

March 2nd, 2021 at 00:51

Hello, I have asus tuf gaming fx516pr with rtx 3070. I have big problems how to make it stable. My afterburner do not find the gpu’s fans so I can not control it. Also do not allow me to lower the voltage. This is not available to change in my afterburner. I have the AB used for other cards and these options are available but not for the laptop. Please, help where is the problem?

admin

March 2nd, 2021 at 09:30

Laptops do usually have more than 1 fan connected in their cooling system and it is not as easy and straightforward to control it… especially with tools that you might be used to for desktop GPUs like MSI Afterburner. Different vendors like MSI usually have their own software with some options for tweaking the performance or forcing the fans to 100% manually, this is especially true on gaming models. If their software does not allow for that, then you might try looking at other tools that might support a given laptop… there is no universal solution unfortunately.

Billy

March 6th, 2021 at 17:49

I picked this laptop up and cannot have it continually mine for any longer than 30 minutes before it shuts it self off. Is there something I can do to prevent this from happening?

Robi

March 7th, 2021 at 01:14

Does any one knows how to get the power limit down on a MSI GP76 Laptop with a RTX 3060?

The GPU consumes currently:

130Watts by +1500 Memory Clock / -502 Core Clock / 59 C by 48.9 MH/s

Is there any other way to get more MH/s?

And I heard that the Hashrate got halved over BIOS from Nvidia on RTX 3060, if this is right why can I get 48.9 MH/s?

Thanks

admin

March 8th, 2021 at 09:43

Billy, if it shuts off it means that some sort of protection is kicking in. What temperatures are you getting, also have you upped the fan speed?

Robi, the RTX 3060 Laptop GPU is not affected from this, only the desktop RTX 3060 is limited in half in term of ETH hashrate by Nvidia. The only way to lower the TDP is via BIOS, meaning that you need to reflash the video BIOS with another one that has lower TDP, but that can cause issues, so it is not recommended. With the clocks and hashrate you are getting you probably cannot squeeze much more than.

Petar

March 21st, 2021 at 20:41

The rog 17 inch with 3070 nvidia only 23 mh/s … this laptop is a joke….

Dan

March 23rd, 2021 at 08:15

Peter, I have a Rog strix G15 and had a similar problem at the beginning.
It was mining at 56MH however when the screen turned off it went down to 23. I turned off every existing power saving feature for windows and Nvidia yet it kept doing the same.

The simple solution for me was to set screen on all the time with a blank screensaver.
Since then no issues, maybe this helps you too.

C H

March 26th, 2021 at 21:21

Hello
can anyone help me to get the VGA 3060 / 3070/3080 TI ? where can I get it from ?

Tudor

April 12th, 2021 at 19:10

To reduce the power limit on an MSI GP66 Leopard laptop equipped with 3070, after lowering the voltages to the maximum allowed of 502Mhz, I opened the voltage curve in MSI Afterburner (you might have to enable it in the settings first to be available and restart the app), selected the lowest point on the curve (which is 700mV and about 750Mhz) and pressed Ctrl+L to lock the card onto that voltage point.

This lower the consumption of the GPU chip to the lowest possible level, about 50W. It’s just on the edge to keep up with the memory setting below (I get 64.9 Mh/s instead of 65.1 Mh/s with normal speed).
Memory power consumption at +1500/2125Mhz setting is about 60W.
The total power consumption reported is around 115W.

Overclocking the memory to 2125Mhz does work without problems. Could it be that they use better GDDR6 modules like these: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12338/samsung-starts-mass-production-of-gddr6-memory? These work to 18Gbps i.e. +2000 in Afterburner or 2250Mhz clock speed. Some guys actually push them to almost that (+1900 or 2225Mhz) here to get 68MH/s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7jj_7oZPOw.
Do note that you might have to increase GPU speed a bit as well if you want to max out. That might push your power consumption by 5W at least. And the memory temperatures might be even 20 degrees over the hotspot ones, so I’m happy with the current situation (They might only be 10, I’d be very happy if someone could confirm; my laptop has warranty screw and I’ll not open it as long as warranty back it up).

Since 3060 only has 3/4 of the memory of 3070 (in GB and probably also in the number of chips), it should also consume only 3/4 of power for the memory power estimated above for 3070 i.e. 45W.
Assuming same GPU power, you should be able to get around 100W in total for 3060. Disclaimer: I don’t have any 3060 Mobile laptop, just offering some estimations based on the technical characteristics.

Christopher Fields

April 17th, 2021 at 11:10

I am running an ASUS ROG 15″ Laptop. I built my own cooling pad for it. I am running twin 120mm 3500rpm fans on the bottom of my laptop.
Running MSI After Burner
Memory +650
Core -500
Temp 64C
Time running………34 Days now.
NiceHash.com Averaging $4.41 Daily USD
GPU @ 85 Watts
41.3 MH/s Stable

if I clock over +650 on the memory my Laptop crashes.
Full model of laptop

ASUS – TUF DASH 15.6″ Gaming Laptop –
Intel 11th Gen i7 –
16GB Memory –
GeForce RTX 3070 –
1TB M.2 PCIEG3 SSD –
Eclipse Grey
Model: FX516PR-

I do not mine the processor.

Vik

April 24th, 2021 at 22:24

Hi!
So… what is the better choice , the Asus TUF Dash or the MSI leopar? ( for mining)
I am before notebook buying.
Thank you guys
Vik

Victor

May 17th, 2021 at 14:55

Hey guys, very great post. I really didn’t know how to use after burner before reading this. Before, my Helios 300 with 3070 on Turbo mode gets 47.5 MH/s on 100W with 56C at max fan. After reading this, I got it on 51 MH/s on 80W with 49C at max fan.
My settings: Core -500 Memory +690.

Shaun

June 9th, 2021 at 02:38

Hello,

I’m also mining on the Asus Tuf Dash 15.6 laptop with the I7 and RTX 3070, using nicehash quickminer, I am getting about 42 mh/s. I’m running into an issue where when I begin mining, my screen goes black for a couple seconds, and comes back on, it does this repeatedly and increases in frequency. Anyone else running into this issue and may have a fix? I’ve turned on Turbo mode in Armoury Crate, and decreased the monitor to 60hz.

Speed
42.81 MH
Power
85W
Efficiency
0.50 MH/J

thanks,

Gen

August 12th, 2021 at 18:55

Shaun,
I have the exact same issue and that was why I found your post.
Unfortunately, I don’t know how to fix and I need a way to solve it, too…

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