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If you remember the story from last month about an supposedly upcoming 19.2 MHS Scrypt ASIC based on Gridseed chips that was briefly put for preorder on aliexpress by a Chinese seller with not a lot of details, then you would be interested to read this exclusive information hat we just received. We just got some real and exclusive information and photos of the upcoming Gridseed Blade Miners from MinerEU.com, an official Gridseed EU distributor. It seems that the new Gridseed Blade Miner will be officially released next week and we already have some real photos and information about the specifications of the hardware.

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The new blade miner will still use GC3355 ASIC chips, the same same as in Gridseeds USB miners. There are 2 PCB panels in each Blade Miner and each panel has 40 GC3355 chips, or you get a total of 80 chips on a single Blade Miner device. Each PCB of the miner has own power socket and USB port to control it, so it is like having two miners in a single package with. The official Scrypt mining hashrate is 5.2 MHS (2.6 MHS for each PCB), but we believe we should be able to improve that hashrate a lot as what we did with their USB ASIC miners by overclocking and modifying them.

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We should note that apparently Gridseed is no longer advertising the new Blade Miners for use for BTC (SHA-256) or Dual Mode mining, instead they are intended for use for Scrypt mining only. Using these devices for BTC mining could create power and cooling issues and the resulting hashrate you could expect is definitely not worth it compared to what you should be able to get in Scrypt only mode… especially after overclocking and maybe voltmodding.

The new Gridseed 80-chip Blade Miner is equivalent to 16 Gridseed 5-chip USB miners, the official total hashrate is quoted as 5.2 MHS or about 65 KHS per chip, so there should be some room for improvement with overclock and possibly voltmod. The total power usage at default frequency should be around 64-70W for each panel or a total of about 140W per Blade Miner. The device should be compatible with the already available software miners such as cpuminer, cgminer and bfgminer with Gridseed support as it essentially uses the same way of communication with the computer as the smaller 5-chip devices.

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If you are eager to get your hands on these new Gridseed Blade Miners, you can order from MinerEU now and expect a delivery probably sometime next week (deliveries are scheduled to start around April 8th). Due to limited availability at the moment, the new miners are not yet publicly listed in their online shop, the order link is intended for their resellers. You can see the official product page of the new Blade Miner on MinerEU’s website with photos and specs, link below. We are going to be ordering one of these devices to be able to play with it more and meanwhile we have been invited to test the new miner by MinerEU, so more details will follow very soon.

To check the official product page of the Gridseed Blade Miner on MinerEU’s website…

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It seems that many users are having trouble understanding what is the actual hashrate they get from their 5-chip Gridseed ASIC miners, the reason for that is partly related to how the Gridseeds are handles in different miner software and the difference in what is being reported. We are starting with the bfgminer 3.10.0 with Gridseed support running a single unit – see the screenshot above as the example that we are going to talk about. Note that the bfgminer has just been started and there are 11 accepted shares, 2 rejected and 0 hardware errors. The first number showing 361.2 KHS is the local hashrate of the miner (running at 850 MHz), this is calculated based on the frequency the miner is running at and is the hashrate that you should be getting in ideal conditions, however normally the conditions differ. The actual hashrate you are getting is the third number, the one we have marked in red, so that you can clearly see what we are talking about. That third number shows the actual hashrate based on the number of accepted shares and their difficulty, it takes into account the rejected shares and the hardware errors you get. The number is calculated as an average since you have started the miner software. The question that you are probably going to ask is why if in ideal conditions we should be getting 361.2 KHS here we have 426.7 KHS as actual hashrate. The reason for that lies in the fact that we just had 11 shares accepted and we had luck so that their difficulty was below the average, so the reported hashrate is averaged over a very short period of time and is not what we should be getting in the long run. You need to leave the miner run for a longer time in order to have a better representation of the actual hashrate you will be getting, but in the long run you are most likely going to get a result that is a bit lower than the optimal value of 361.2 KHS.

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In the second example we are going to be looking at cgminer 3.7.2 modified to support Gridseed. In the example above we have a single miner overclocked to run at 950 MHz and the software miner has been running for a few hours already. Again the first number that shows 404.3 KHS is the theoretical hashrate in ideal conditions that is based on the operating frequency of the miner. The second number that we have marked with red is the actual hashrate that we are getting with this ASIC device running cgminer. The second number takes into account the time the miner is running, the number of accepted shares and their difficulty, the number of rejected shares and the hardware errors the device is getting. So instead of 404.3 KHS the actual hashrate we are getting is 401.5 KHS in this case and this is the result we are getting with the cgminer running for 4 hours.

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If we take a look at the hashrate reported by the pool for the Gridseed ASIC miner using the cgminer example above we can see that the pool reports 398.46 KHS and not 401.5 KHS. The number of submitted shares and rejected ones reported by the pool is also different. The reason for that is that the pool statistics has been reset about 8 hours before starting the miner and the statistics in cgminer is for about 4 hours only. The reported actual hashrate of cgminer is based on 4 hours of running, however the reported hashrate by the pool is based only on the shares submitted in the past 1 hour. Different mining pools base their average hashrate on the number of shares submitted in the last X minutes and that period can vary between 1 minute to 1 hour or even more. And as with the software miners not being able to report very adequate hashrate in just a minute or two, if the pool reports hashrate based on the shares submitted over a short period of time it might be reporting lower or higher values that are not close to the real one. Looking at the right number in bfgminer or cgminer should give you a pretty good idea on the actual hashrate you are getting, also pools that average hashrate over a longer period of time such as at least 5 or 10 minutes can be used to give you a good idea.

The first miner available with support for the Gridseed ASIC devices was a modified version of cpuminer that however does not report local or actual hashrate as that software miner does not keep statistics for the number of accepted and rejected shares, neither does take into account the hardware errors produced by the device. So it reports a hashrate of 0 all of the time, even though it is actually working, the only way to find what is the actual hashrate if using cpuminer is to look at the hashrate reported by the pool.

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When we’ve made our previous guide for dual mining BTC and LTC on a Gridseed 5-chip GC3355 ASIC we’ve only had an earlier revision of the miner that used CP2102 USB to UART Bridge Controller. Now that we already have a newer revision with the STMicroelectronics Virtual COM Port we have decided to update the guide with information on how to Dualmine on these ASIC devices. Note that we do not recommend using these devices for dual mining mode, but for Scrypt only mode instead, but you are free to decide for yourself. The advantages of using Scrypt only mode are the low power consumption and heat, the ability to overclock higher, including with a voltage modification and a choice of multiple more up to date software miners. Note that the only way for the moment to use the Dual Mining mode on the Gridseed 5-chip GC3355 ASIC devices is to use the special version of cgminer 3.8.5 for BTC mining (SHA-256) along with the special modified version of cpuminer for Gridseed for LTC mining. Due to the way that the Dual Mining mode is realized on these ASICs using a more recent version of cgminer or bfgminer for LTC (Scrypt) mining on these devices along with the cgminer for BTC mining is not possible at the moment.

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– Open up Windows Device Manager and go to the Ports (COM & LPT) and note the COM port that is written behind the STMicroelectronics Virtual COM Port driver
– Download and run the latest version of Zadig
– From the Zadig interface select Options and choose List All Devices
– From the Dropdown list of devices select STM32 Virtual COM Port and click on Replace Driver with the WinUSB driver selected
– Download the dualmining package that we have prepared for windows that contains cgminer 3.8.5 for BTC mining and cpuminer for LTC mining
– Edit the BAT files for the two software miners included in the archive with your settings for BTC and LTC mining pools
– In the LTC-START.bat file you will see an option “gc3355=\\.\COM4”, here you need to change the COM port number to the one you have seen in the device manager before updating the driver with Zadig to use WinUSB
– First you need to start cgminer 3.8.5 for BTC mining, wait a few seconds until the software starts up and connects to the pool and starts working
– Then start the cpuminer for LTC mining, note that you will need to wait for some more time here before the miner connects and starts working, but it it takes more than a minute maybe something is not right

If you still haven’t used cpuminer for Gridseed you should know that the software does not report local hashrate, so the zeroes you see are normal, it is actually working and sending shares. Also note that when in Dual Mining mode you will not be able to overclock the device as high as when only in Scrypt mining mode, so it is normal to be getting lower hasrate. As we’ve already said, we do not recommend the Dual Mining mode and suggest to use these ASIC devices for Scrypt mining mode only, especially if you want to run multiple devices.

Download the DualMining package for BTC/LTC mining on Gridseed 5-chip GC3355 ASIC for Windows…


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